Ich weiß nicht, wohin damit; also falls es jemanden interessiert:
habe zur Prokrastination mal "Baba O' Riley" von The Who gegoogelt (manchmal komme ich auf solch blöde Ideen) und hab eine Interpretation gefunden, die den Song für mich in einem ganz neuen Zusammenhang dastehen läßt.
ive read/seen several interviews with pete where he either implies or flat out says that this song is about vietnam, but ive never heard why. the way i see it is that the song is from the point of view of a refugee from communist north vietnam. he doesnt want to be involved in the war ("i dont need to fight to prove im right"), he just wants to live normally and he can only doing that by escaping to south vietnam ("travel south crossland"). i think the chorus comes from the fact that the war devestated vietnam both economically and enviromentally (the "wasteland"), and that when pete wrote this song in 1971, americans had been occupying vietnam for well over a decade (and so, "teenage").
the title comes from 2 names: meher baba, petes mentor, and terry o'riley, a minimalist composer who inspired pete. pete set up a way to program information about people into a synthesizer so that every person would have a unique melody. he programmed in information about meher baba, such as his birthdate and his height, and came up with the background melody of baba oriley. the original loop was over 9 minutes long, but it was shortened for the song. people dont realize how revolutionary the whos synthesizer use was. now, every other song you hear has a synth loop, but in 1971, basically the only people experimenting with them in their music were the who and stevie wonder.
Nochmal zum Mitfürchten:
the original loop was over 9 minutes long
Zumindest das ist der Menschheit erspart geblieben.
We don't believe in anything we dont stand for nothing. We got no "V" for victory cause we know things are tougher.
(Iggy Pop/James Williamson: "Beyond The Law")
---------------------------------------------------------------- From the river to shut the fuck up.
Zitat von King Bronkowitz im Beitrag #1487Ich weiß nicht, wohin damit; also falls es jemanden interessiert:
habe zur Prokrastination mal "Baba O' Riley" von The Who gegoogelt (manchmal komme ich auf solch blöde Ideen) und hab eine Interpretation gefunden, die den Song für mich in einem ganz neuen Zusammenhang dastehen läßt.
ive read/seen several interviews with pete where he either implies or flat out says that this song is about vietnam, but ive never heard why. the way i see it is that the song is from the point of view of a refugee from communist north vietnam. he doesnt want to be involved in the war ("i dont need to fight to prove im right"), he just wants to live normally and he can only doing that by escaping to south vietnam ("travel south crossland"). i think the chorus comes from the fact that the war devestated vietnam both economically and enviromentally (the "wasteland"), and that when pete wrote this song in 1971, americans had been occupying vietnam for well over a decade (and so, "teenage").
the title comes from 2 names: meher baba, petes mentor, and terry o'riley, a minimalist composer who inspired pete. pete set up a way to program information about people into a synthesizer so that every person would have a unique melody. he programmed in information about meher baba, such as his birthdate and his height, and came up with the background melody of baba oriley. the original loop was over 9 minutes long, but it was shortened for the song. people dont realize how revolutionary the whos synthesizer use was. now, every other song you hear has a synth loop, but in 1971, basically the only people experimenting with them in their music were the who and stevie wonder.
Nochmal zum Mitfürchten:
the original loop was over 9 minutes long
Zumindest das ist der Menschheit erspart geblieben.
Pete Townshed selbst hat übrigens das gesagt:
ZitatA self-sufficient dropout family group farming in a remote part of Scotland decide to return south to investigate rumors of a subversive concert event that promises to shake and wake up apathetic, fearful British society. Ray is married to Sally, they hope to link up with their daughter Mary who has run away from home to attend the concert. They travel through the scarred wasteland of middle England in a motor caravan, running an air conditioner they hope will protect them from pollution. There are regular people, but they’re the scum off the surface; there’s a few farmers there, that’s where the thing from ‘Baba O'Riley’ comes in.
Nachzulesen auf genius.com, da gibt es zu sehr vielen Songs Interpretationen und die Seite sammelt auch Aussagen der Künstler selbst.
Die letzten Sechs in der Playlist: Honeyglaze - Real Deal || Laura Marling - Patterns In Repeat || Nieve Ella - Watch It Ache and Bleed || Dawn Richard & Spencer Zahn - Quiet In a World Full of Noise || Flip Top Head - Up Like a Weather Balloon || Haley Heyndericks - Seed of a Seed
Das spricht meine niederen Instinkte an. Ich liebe den Song.
Die letzten Sechs in der Playlist: Honeyglaze - Real Deal || Laura Marling - Patterns In Repeat || Nieve Ella - Watch It Ache and Bleed || Dawn Richard & Spencer Zahn - Quiet In a World Full of Noise || Flip Top Head - Up Like a Weather Balloon || Haley Heyndericks - Seed of a Seed
Zitat von JackOfAllTrades im Beitrag #1489 Nachzulesen auf genius.com, da gibt es zu sehr vielen Songs Interpretationen und die Seite sammelt auch Aussagen der Künstler selbst
Tolle Seite, leider unterstützt mein Rechner den Erklärbär - Teil nicht. Deswegen bin ich auf "Songmeanings" gelandet, oder wie das heißt.
We don't believe in anything we dont stand for nothing. We got no "V" for victory cause we know things are tougher.
(Iggy Pop/James Williamson: "Beyond The Law")
---------------------------------------------------------------- From the river to shut the fuck up.
Sie haben längst nicht mehr die Bedeutung für mich, die ich Ihnen als 9-Jähriger geben konnte, der mit heruntergeklappter Kinnlade "Da Funk" entdeckte, aber eben deshalb ist es schon schade.
Die letzten Sechs in der Playlist: Honeyglaze - Real Deal || Laura Marling - Patterns In Repeat || Nieve Ella - Watch It Ache and Bleed || Dawn Richard & Spencer Zahn - Quiet In a World Full of Noise || Flip Top Head - Up Like a Weather Balloon || Haley Heyndericks - Seed of a Seed
hab ich gesehen, daß da jetzt wieder einiges auf den markt kommt... alan vega sollte bei mir funktionieren, aber irgendwie funktioniert es eben nicht. über seine sachen mit suicide bin ich kaum je hinausgekommen.
Ich bin mir unschlüssig, ob ich eher von „Stil“ oder „Klischee“ sprechen sollte. Ich hab mir seine Solo-Sachen nie angehört, selbst von Suicide kenne ich nicht alles. Interessant genug zum Reinhören finde ich es aber schon.
☟ smog in berlin. nichts wie hin. weil du mich küsst, bin ich kein tourist.
"klischee" trifft es vielleicht ganz gut... vielleicht ist genau das mein problem mit ihm: es klingt wie klischee-düsterelektrokram aus den achtzigern. irgendwas fehlt mir da. vielleicht die nihilistische radikalität des ersten suicide-albums, auch, wenn es ungerecht ist, einen künstler an einem einzigen geniestreich zu messen. etwas mehr dürfte da aber schon kommen.